Wow, so my question really got everyone going.

 

So, I have an SCCM hierarchy now. I am pretty much doing a side by side rebuild, not an upgrade from SMS 2003.

 

A lot of good info has been sent back to this thread and I appreciate it. But now out of curiosity, is there a way to add multiple SUBNET boundaries at once without having to add one at a time?

 

From: admin@lists.myITforum.com [mailto:admin@lists.myITforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:58 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Subnet Boundary bulk add.

 

Site control, site systems, system roles, DP's, and secondary sites would all be in the parent DB.

And none of them ever completely go away unless you dig around in the DB and remove them.

And if you let a package roll down from parent to child all the data in the DPcontentMap (or is it DPpackagemap) table would still be there, letting your clients obtain content from Ghost DP's

And if it ever happened that the package became unavailable on the other real protected DP's, all the clients would go to the ghost DP because it would no longer have boundaries.

 

I can dig out old PSS cases on all of the above if you doubt me J

 

From: admin@lists.myITforum.com [mailto:admin@lists.myITforum.com] On Behalf Of Alexey Semibratov
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:22 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Subnet Boundary bulk add.

 

 

All "trash" you'll be dealing with will be discovery and some inventory that will be overwritten once the client is completely migrated. You're not going to get any collections, packages or advertisements from the child site in your new shiny site.

 

I need to check with site code in boundaries, when it's grayed out, don't have an answer now.

 

Thank you.

 

From: admin@lists.myITforum.com [mailto:admin@lists.myITforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:03 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Subnet Boundary bulk add.

 

In doing a side by side most of us prefer not to connect the sites so we do not get trash in our shiny new DB.

If you wanted to do all that you could just upgrade the 03 site to sccm. Do a backup, and restore on the new hardware.

 

Also, I always see the "Site" option as greyed out in my SCCM console. I have tried changing the site when I add or remove a secondary and always find I need a new boundary.

 

Maybe I need to check my permissions.

 

Todd

 

From: admin@lists.myITforum.com [mailto:admin@lists.myITforum.com] On Behalf Of Alexey Semibratov
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:58 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Subnet Boundary bulk add.

 

Best way to do that was to make SMS 2003 site child to SCCM site, and, from SCCM parent site just to change the "Site" for existing boundaries reported from the child.

Leave on SCCM 2007 checkbox "only 2007 clients" unchecked, and all your SMS 2003 client may report to SCCM with no problem if they change assignment for whatever reason (by clicking "discover" button on the client by accident, for instance).

So, now you have a hierarchy, it's time to start moving clients. First - send an advertisement with a small script to re-assign (click discover button, there is an COM object call for that). Do it from different places - domain startup script, login script, etc.

 

Second step is to send out ccmsetup.exe /noservice from SCCM which will upgrade the client from the advertisement targeted to older (2.50%) client version and NEW installed site code.

 

This is just in brief, let me know if you have any questions.

 

Thank you.

 

From: admin@lists.myITforum.com [mailto:admin@lists.myITforum.com] On Behalf Of Joe Artz
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:41 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Subnet Boundary bulk add.

 

We did that when we upgraded from SMS 2003.  The SMS 2003 site I inherited was not documented and we started fresh with a new site.  We left the SMS 2003 AD boundaries up and set up the new ConfigMgr 2007 site without boundaries and published it to AD.  That way the SMS 2003 computers were still in their site and could actively be used, and the ConfigMgr clients would look to AD to find there MP.  The ConfigMgr clients before we moved the boundaries were roaming, so we had to set the advertisements to allow the programs to run/download when connected to a slow or unreliable network.  When we made the switch to ConfigMgr we had a small number of computers (around 2,000) so we only had one DP.  I found an old email I sent out to our SMS admins, here is an excerpt:

 

"In order to run both the SMS 2003 site and the ConfigMgr 2007 site together one of them had to be setup without boundaries.  ConfigMgr 2007, being the new kid on the block and in pilot in most colleges/academic units, drew the short straw.  This doesn't affect the ability to deploy software or operating systems, but it does require certain settings to make that happen.  The result of ConfigMgr 2007 site not having boundaries is that each client that is assigned to it thinks it's roaming(which technically it is) so in order to deploy software to the clients you will have to select 'Download content from distribution point and run locally' or 'Run program from distribution point' in the advertisement properties on the 'Distribution Points' tab.  I have attached a screen shot for clarity.  I also attached a screen shot of an OSD task sequence advertisement, where it varies slightly.

I did make note of using remote distribution points in the ConfigMgr documentation on page 9 under the heading 'ConfigMgr admin console notes' but I wanted to give the settings higher visibility.  The reason that the setting was placed in notes is that once SMS 2003 is retired ( retired = sunset = dead) :-)       is that the setting will be no longer needed, but will remain an option.  We currently only have one distribution point, but as the amount of computers hitting the DP grow more distribution points will be needed."

 

Granted, depending on your setup and LAN connection, YMMV.  We wouldn't do it as abruptly again, but at the time it was a small number of computers.  We're by no means big now, but we have multiple DPs and growing.

 

I see there's been some more posts in the time it took me to find the old email, but hopefully this helps.  I can send on the screenshots to if you like.

 

Also, I believe changing the advertisement settings would be scriptable. I looked into it then got sidetracked. still J

 

Thanks!

 

Joe

 

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University of Minnesota

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From: admin@lists.myITforum.com [mailto:admin@lists.myITforum.com] On Behalf Of John Marcum
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:11 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Subnet Boundary bulk add.

 

If you remove the boundaries how will clients find content?

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John Marcum
MCP, MCTS, MCSA
MVP - System Center Configuration Manager 2007
www.myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum
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From: "Garth Jones" <garth@enhansoft.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:54 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Subnet Boundary bulk add.

They will not be "unmanaged" You can still send out any program , software updates etc. to them. Just no new clients can be managed by the old site.

 

Any new PCs added to the network will be "unmanaged" until you enable push install or manually trigger the client to install.

 

 

From: admin@lists.myITforum.com [mailto:admin@lists.myITforum.com] On Behalf Of Eric Morrison
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:09 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Subnet Boundary bulk add.

 

So if a computer is being unmanaged, will it cause any errors or notifications to the users?

 

Also, I am assuming right clicking on the clients on the new site and selecting install will take care of any fears I had of the clients not moving to the new site code?

 

Thanks.

 

From: admin@lists.myITforum.com [mailto:admin@lists.myITforum.com] On Behalf Of John Marcum
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:53 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Subnet Boundary bulk add.

 

I totally agree with Garth. Don't create that headache of 250 seperate boundaries, go this route. Only thing is the clients will be unmanged after you Pull all the boundaries from the old site. until you Manually, do the right click reinstall client thing and covert whatever WS that you want whenever you want.

________________________________
John Marcum
MCP, MCTS, MCSA
MVP - System Center Configuration Manager 2007
www.myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/jmarcum
_________________________________

 


From: "Garth Jones" <garth@enhansoft.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:36 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Subnet Boundary bulk add.

Why not

·         Pull all the boundaries from the old site.

·         Add boundaries to new site

·         Don't turn on automatic push install

·         Turn on all discovery methods you want

·         Manually, do the right click reinstall client thing and covert whatever WS that you want whenever you want.

 

Bingo.

 

 

From: admin@lists.myITforum.com [mailto:admin@lists.myITforum.com] On Behalf Of Eric Morrison
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:13 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] SCCM Subnet Boundary bulk add.

 

I agree with you, but this was my thinking and maybe I should approach it a different way if anyone has any suggestions.

 

The company I started working for was running SMS 2003 and did an inplace upgrade to SCCM SP1 R2 right before I started. This did not go smooth and everthing is EXTREMELY unstable. I spend most of my time trying to keep everything going with duct tape. So now they want a hierarchy side-by-side rebuild. Our main office is a campus with about 3,500 workstations. I am a little nervous to cut over 3500 machines from the old hierarchy to the new one in one swoop, so I was thinking of doing it a few subnets at a time.

 

I figured doing it this way would allow me to monitor machines as they move to the new site and MP and not have boundary overlap.

 

Should I be doing this a different way?

 

Thanks,

 

Eric Morrison

 

From: Garth Jones

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:02 PM

Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Subnet Boundary bulk add.

 

I have to ask why? IMHO AD boundaries are better that IP subnets.

 

From: admin@lists.myITforum.com [mailto:admin@lists.myITforum.com] On Behalf Of Eric Morrison
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:47 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] SCCM Subnet Boundary bulk add.

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I need to convert one of my site boundaries from an AD defined site to subnet defined. The only thing is there are about 250 subnets for this one particular site. Is there a tool or a way to bulk add all of the sites from a list? Or a different method so I don't have to go through the wizard 250 times.

 

I am sure there is a way to script it, I just don't have hardly any scripting knowledge.

 

Can anyone help me with this?

 

Thanks,

 

Eric Morrison

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